Zuckerberg criticizes Apple's App Store policies and "arbitrary" rules, while highlighting Meta's advancements in neural interfaces and the merging of physical and digital realities.
In a recent interview with Joe Rogan, Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg launched a scathing critique of Apple, accusing the tech giant of "coasting" on past successes and hindering innovation. Zuckerberg's comments, part of a nearly three-hour conversation, touched on a range of topics, from Apple's App Store policies to Meta's vision for the future of technology.
Zuckerberg: Apple "Hasn't Invented Anything Great in a While"
The conversation began with Rogan expressing his frustrations with Apple's App Store policies, particularly the 30% commission levied on in-app purchases. Zuckerberg echoed these concerns, acknowledging the iPhone's significance but arguing that Apple's current practices stifle competition and innovation.
He cited Apple's restrictions on third-party access to its protocols as a prime example. "They thoroughly hamstrung the ability for anyone else to build something that can connect to the iPhone in the same way," Zuckerberg said, pointing to AirPods as an example. He argued that opening these protocols would foster competition and lead to better products for consumers.
Zuckerberg also highlighted the financial implications of Apple's policies for Meta. "If Apple's 'random rules' didn't apply, Meta would make 'twice as much profit or something' based on his 'back of the envelope calculation'." This underscores the significant financial impact of Apple's App Store policies on Meta's business.
Apple Under Pressure to Open Up
Apple's dominance in the smartphone market has drawn increasing scrutiny from regulators and competitors. The European Union has recently implemented legislation forcing Apple to open up its ecosystem, and the US Department of Justice has filed a lawsuit against the company for anti-competitive practices.
Despite these pressures, Apple appears determined to maintain its closed ecosystem. Zuckerberg, however, believes this strategy will ultimately backfire. He predicts that Apple's "reliance on just advantaging their stuff" will eventually lead to its downfall. "The tech industry is 'super dynamic,'" he emphasized, "and 'if you just don't do a good job for like 10 years, eventually, you're just going to get beat by someone.'"
Meta's Vision for the Future: Blending Physical and Digital Realities
Beyond his criticisms of Apple, Zuckerberg shared his vision for the future of technology, focusing on the convergence of the physical and digital worlds. He discussed Meta's work on neural interfaces, particularly a wrist-based device that could enable users to interact with the digital world more seamlessly.
Zuckerberg envisions a future where users can interact with AI assistants, control devices, and even communicate with others through neural interfaces. He believes that augmented reality glasses and eventually even contact lenses will become ubiquitous, overlaying digital information onto the physical world.
"There isn't a physical world and a digital world anymore," he declared. "We're in 2025. It's one world."
Conclusion
Zuckerberg's interview with Joe Rogan provides a fascinating glimpse into his views on the current state of the tech industry and his vision for the future. His scathing critique of Apple highlights the growing tensions between the two tech giants, while his discussion of Meta's advancements in neural interfaces offers a glimpse into the company's ambitious plans to shape the future of human-computer interaction.
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